MRPG Dual-Wielding - Revision history

CourseDirector at 22:47, 25 September 2017

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	Many people will, immediately respond that dual-wielding ranged weapons is stupid and ridiculous. I say "neener-neener-neerner my game is cooler than yours!" to them.		Many people will, immediately respond that dual-wielding ranged weapons is stupid and ridiculous. I say "neener-neener-neerner my game is cooler than yours!" to them.

	~~===Basic~~ Ranged Dual-Wielding~~===~~		Ranged Dual Wielding relies entirely on facets and is significantly more investment-intensive than melee. Basically, you have to start by mastering having something else in your hand.
	~~First of all ranged dual-wielding will require a facet to even equip~~ and ~~off~~-~~hand weapon~~. ~~Second~~, ~~the players strength and dexterity must be able~~ to ~~meet the requirements for both stats for each weapon~~.

	~~'''Example:''' a player wishes to equip a bow with a minimum DEX of 12 and a sword with~~ a ~~minimum STR of 10. BOTH STR AND DEX MUST BE EQUAL TO 12. When attacking~~, ~~the character will automatically alternate between bow and melee regardless of whether or not a mob~~ is ~~within melee range~~.		As for HOW someone would feasibly an accurately use 2 longbows at a time, that's what imagination is for.

	==~~==Ranged Offhand-Penalty====~~		==Thrown Dual Wielding==
	~~Unlike melee, there is no offhand-penalty for having a melee weapon equiped to the offhand, since the ranged weapon also takes a major penalty from having both equiped.~~		The basic game rules treat throwing weapons as 2-handed. Facets allow you to change this.

	~~As usual these penalties are reduced and removed through additional facets.~~

	~~===Advanced Ranged~~ Dual-Wielding===
	~~Advanced Ranged Dual-Wielding is the use of two ranged-~~weapons at once. Players may still only equip one [[MRPG Items#Ammunition\|ammo-bag]] at a time, so they must use same-type weapons(E.G. two longbows, two crossbows, etc). Weapons can be mixed IF they use the same type of ammunition(longbows and shortbows both fire arrows).

	~~Much like with dual-wielding melees, the player must have double the buffed dexterity~~ as ~~required for both weapons(or: higher DEX-requirement X2).~~

	~~All combat calculations then use unbuffed-dexterity and damage is reduced by 50%.~~

	~~===Removing Ranged Penalties===~~
	~~It is possible, eventually, to remove all penalties form ranged dual~~-~~wielding and to thus do full-damage with each equiped weapon~~. ~~It is not possible to mix weapon-types, however.~~

	~~====Mage Wars PnP====~~
	~~In [[Mage Wars PnP]], Players are allowed~~ to ~~select multiple targets and attack a different ranged target depending on which hand they are using~~.

	==Dual-Wielding and Spellcasting==		==Dual-Wielding and Spellcasting==
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	*Hand Wrap		*Hand Wrap
	*Kama		*Kama
	*Nunchaku

	~~If one of these weapons is used, the attack is treated as a normal attack reguardless of whether it is main-hand or off-hand.~~

	==See Also:==		==See Also:==

CourseDirector: /* Dual-Wielding Facet Chain */

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	====Mage Wars PnP====		====Mage Wars PnP====
	In [[Mage Wars PnP]], Players are allowed to select multiple targets and attack a different ranged target depending on which hand they are using.		In [[Mage Wars PnP]], Players are allowed to select multiple targets and attack a different ranged target depending on which hand they are using.

	~~==Dual-Wielding Facet Chain==~~
	Basic dual-wielding will be available to all characters from the start. The first facets of the chain will lower the strength-requirements. Advanced Dual-Wielding will also require a facet, and further facets will lower the requirements to ignore the penalty.

	~~All of these will be required for the over-sized dual-wielding and ranged dual-wielding, hence ranged dual-wielding is only available after the player has mastered melee dual-wielding.~~

	==Dual-Wielding and Spellcasting==		==Dual-Wielding and Spellcasting==

CourseDirector at 21:50, 25 September 2017

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	It is possible to dual-wield any weapon, regardless of practicality, probability, or sanity. It just takes a lot of work.		It is possible to dual-wield any weapon, regardless of practicality, probability, or sanity. It just takes a lot of work.

			Attacking with the off-hand weapon takes a Free Action. See [[MPNP Combat Instances and Rounds#Attack Speed\|Attack Speed for full details

	Base Rules:		Base Rules:
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	===Off-Hand Damage===		===Off-Hand Damage===
	Off-Hand weapons gain bonus damage dice from any applicable sources. A bonus that applies additional damage dice, such as a facet or enchanted item, applies to both equipped weapon.		Off-Hand weapon damage is treated as normal. Off-Hand weapons gain bonus damage dice from any applicable sources. A bonus that applies additional damage dice, such as a facet or enchanted item, applies to both equipped weapon.

	==Ranged Dual-Wielding==		==Ranged Dual-Wielding==

CourseDirector at 21:43, 25 September 2017

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	*'''NOTE:''' Page is being revised. Basic changes: simplify system heavily. Revisit facets at the same time. Figure out some way to do it without factoring in weapon requirements. First change is going off of size. Just simple and dirty, penalties to attack. Facets will eventually remove penalties. Also some racial traits.

	~~Gah, so much work.~~

	It is possible to dual-wield any weapon, regardless of practicality, probability, or sanity. It just takes a lot of work.		It is possible to dual-wield any weapon, regardless of practicality, probability, or sanity. It just takes a lot of work.

	~~==Melee Dual-Wielding==~~		Base Rules:
	~~In similest terms, dual-wielding offers you the ability to carry a second weapon. While dual-wielding, you may attack with your off-hand~~ weapon ~~as your Free Action, if you attacked with the Main Hand weapon at least once. See [[MPNP Combat Instances and Rounds#Attack Speed\|Attack Speed]]~~ for ~~number of attacks. If you have more than one attack per turn, you may also choose to attack with your off-hand~~ weapon~~. In this instance, it is not treated as an off-hand attack~~.		*The character must have weapon proficiency for each weapon.
			*Each Weapon must be 1-handed
	~~===Basic Dual Wielding===~~		*The Off-hand weapon suffers an attack penalty according to size as follows:
	~~Any~~ 1-handed ~~weapon can be carried off~~-hand ~~with~~ an ~~off-hand~~ penalty to ~~AV based on the weapons~~ size:

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	This applies to the AV and not the number of Attack Dice, so any bonuses directly to attack dice are still applied.		This applies to the AV and not the number of Attack Dice, so any bonuses directly to attack dice are still applied.

			See [[MRPG Facet List#Dual Wielding\|Dual Wielding Facets]] for information on how to change this.

	===Off-Hand Damage===		===Off-Hand Damage===
	Off-Hand weapons gain bonus damage dice from any applicable sources. ~~Base Damage from the Off-Hand weapon is reduced by 50%~~, ~~this does not apply to enchantments or any special effects.~~		Off-Hand weapons gain bonus damage dice from any applicable sources. A bonus that applies additional damage dice, such as a facet or enchanted item, applies to both equipped weapon.

	~~===Over-Sized Dual-Wielding===~~
	~~Over-sized dual-wielding allows~~ a ~~character to dual wield first one, and then two 2-handed weapons(first 2-hand main-hand and 1-hand off-hand, then a 2-hander in each hand).~~

	~~====Over-Sized Offhand-Penalty====~~
	~~For the 2-hander mainhand/1-hander offhand there is no penalty if the player meets the strength, level, and proficiency requirements and already has the offhand-penalty~~ facet~~. For dual-wielding a second 2-hander~~, ~~the same penalty(all checks use unbuffed-strength)~~ applies~~, along with a 50% reduction in damage for the offhand and 25% for the main-hand.~~

	~~All of this can, of course, be improved with facets, allowing sufficiently-powerful characters~~ to ~~dual-wield two-handed melee weapons and deal full, buffed-damage with each hand~~.

	==Ranged Dual-Wielding==		==Ranged Dual-Wielding==

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	==Melee Dual-Wielding==		==Melee Dual-Wielding==
	In similest terms, dual-wielding offers you the ability to carry a second weapon, and attack ~~twice~~ per ~~round without~~		In similest terms, dual-wielding offers you the ability to carry a second weapon. While dual-wielding, you may attack with your off-hand weapon as your Free Action, if you attacked with the Main Hand weapon at least once. See [[MPNP Combat Instances and Rounds#Attack Speed\|Attack Speed]] for number of attacks. If you have more than one attack per turn, you may also choose to attack with your off-hand weapon. In this instance, it is not treated as an off-hand attack.

	===Basic Dual Wielding===		===Basic Dual Wielding===
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	This applies to the AV and not the number of Attack Dice, so any bonuses directly to attack dice are still applied.		This applies to the AV and not the number of Attack Dice, so any bonuses directly to attack dice are still applied.

			===Off-Hand Damage===
	===~~Advanced Dual~~-~~Wielding~~===		Off-Hand weapons gain bonus damage dice from any applicable sources. Base Damage from the Off-Hand weapon is reduced by 50%, this does not apply to enchantments or any special effects.
	~~If the player has the Back~~ Hand ~~facet, the~~ damage ~~penalty is ignored~~.
	<!-~~-If the player has sufficient proficiency with all~~ weapon~~-types being used("sufficient" to be determined~~ by ~~a combination of weapon strength-requirement~~, ~~character level, and buffed proficiency), the offhand penalty is ignored. A visual indicator on the player's character sheet will show whether~~ or ~~not the penalty is being imposed~~.~~-->~~

	===Over-Sized Dual-Wielding===		===Over-Sized Dual-Wielding===
	Over-sized dual-wielding ~~will allow the player, using facets,~~ to dual wield first one, and then two 2-handed weapons(first 2-hand main-hand and 1-hand off-hand, then a 2-hander in each hand)~~. The strength-requirements will be enormous and will probably impose dexterity and stamina penalties, which can, of course, be eliminated with facets~~.		Over-sized dual-wielding allows a character to dual wield first one, and then two 2-handed weapons(first 2-hand main-hand and 1-hand off-hand, then a 2-hander in each hand).

	====Over-Sized Offhand-Penalty====		====Over-Sized Offhand-Penalty====

CourseDirector at 23:10, 27 May 2016

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	~~Dual-Wielding~~ in ~~[[Mage Wars RPG]]~~ will ~~take a somewhat more exciting role than in other games~~. It is possible to dual-wield any weapon, regardless of practicality, probability, or sanity. It just takes a lot of work.		*'''NOTE:''' Page is being revised. Basic changes: simplify system heavily. Revisit facets at the same time. Figure out some way to do it without factoring in weapon requirements. First change is going off of size. Just simple and dirty, penalties to attack. Facets will eventually remove penalties. Also some racial traits.

			Gah, so much work.

			It is possible to dual-wield any weapon, regardless of practicality, probability, or sanity. It just takes a lot of work.

	==Melee Dual-Wielding==		==Melee Dual-Wielding==
	~~The rules for~~ dual-wielding ~~Melee Weapons:~~		In similest terms, dual-wielding offers you the ability to carry a second weapon, and attack twice per round without

	===Basic Dual Wielding===		===Basic Dual Wielding===
	~~Each weapon has a strength requirement in order to equip it. In order to equip two~~ 1-handed ~~weapons,~~ the ~~character must have the combined strength requirements of both~~ weapons.('''~~Example:~~''' ~~a character wishes to equip a sword with STR 8 and a knife with STR 5, he must have at least STR 13)~~.		Any 1-handed weapon can be carried off-hand with an off-hand penalty to AV based on the weapons size:

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			<tr><td>'''Size'''</td><td>'''Penalty'''</td></tr>
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			<td>Small</td><td>None.</td>
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			<td>Medium</td><td>-50%</td>
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			<td>Large</td><td>-70%</td>
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			<td>Vary Large</td><td>-90%</td>
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			<td>Immense</td><td>-100%</td>
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			</table>

	~~On making attacks,~~ the ~~character will automatically alternate attacking from each side([[Mage Wars PnP]]:~~ the ~~player my chose which hand~~ to attack ~~with or both)~~.		This applies to the AV and not the number of Attack Dice, so any bonuses directly to attack dice are still applied.

	~~====Offhand-Penalty====~~
	In basic Dual Wielding, the off-hand weapon does 50% less final damage. After all damage is totaled, the final amount is reduced by half and then applied. This includes magical damage from enchantments.

	===Advanced Dual-Wielding===		===Advanced Dual-Wielding===

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Basic Ranged Dual-Wielding

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	First of all ranged dual-wielding will require a facet to even equip and off-hand weapon. Second, the players strength and dexterity must be able to meet the requirements for both stats for each weapon.		First of all ranged dual-wielding will require a facet to even equip and off-hand weapon. Second, the players strength and dexterity must be able to meet the requirements for both stats for each weapon.

	'''Example:''' a player wishes to equip a bow with a minimum DEX of 12 and a sword with a minimum STR of 10. BOTH STR AND DEX MUST BE EQUAL TO 12.		'''Example:''' a player wishes to equip a bow with a minimum DEX of 12 and a sword with a minimum STR of 10. BOTH STR AND DEX MUST BE EQUAL TO 12. When attacking, the character will automatically alternate between bow and melee regardless of whether or not a mob is within melee range.

	~~The character will also use unbuffed-stats for all combat calculations while both weapons are equiped(AV, DV, and damage calculation).~~

	When attacking, the character will automatically alternate between bow and melee regardless of whether or not a mob is within melee range.

	====Ranged Offhand-Penalty====		====Ranged Offhand-Penalty====

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	===Advanced Dual-Wielding===		===Advanced Dual-Wielding===
	If the player has sufficient proficiency with all weapon-types being used("sufficient" to be determined by a combination of weapon strength-requirement, character level, and buffed proficiency), the offhand penalty is ignored. A visual indicator on the player's character sheet will show whether or not the penalty is being imposed.		If the player has the Back Hand facet, the damage penalty is ignored.
			<!--If the player has sufficient proficiency with all weapon-types being used("sufficient" to be determined by a combination of weapon strength-requirement, character level, and buffed proficiency), the offhand penalty is ignored. A visual indicator on the player's character sheet will show whether or not the penalty is being imposed.-->

	===Over-Sized Dual-Wielding===		===Over-Sized Dual-Wielding===

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	====Offhand-Penalty====		====Offhand-Penalty====
	In basic Dual Wielding, the off-hand weapon does 50% less final damage. After all damage is totaled, the final amount is reduced by half and then applied.		In basic Dual Wielding, the off-hand weapon does 50% less final damage. After all damage is totaled, the final amount is reduced by half and then applied. This includes magical damage from enchantments.

	===Advanced Dual-Wielding===		===Advanced Dual-Wielding===

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	====Offhand-Penalty====		====Offhand-Penalty====
	~~For~~ the off-hand weapon, all ~~checks are done using the unbuffed Strength and Strength Modifier. So even if a formula would call for the buffed check~~, ~~use~~ the ~~unbuffed if the attack~~ is ~~off-hand~~.		In basic Dual Wielding, the off-hand weapon does 50% less final damage. After all damage is totaled, the final amount is reduced by half and then applied.

	===Advanced Dual-Wielding===		===Advanced Dual-Wielding===